Comments on: The mesh08 Suggestion Box http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/ Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:38:22 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: A Look at Upcoming Search Industry Conferences | SEO Backlinking - SEO and Online Reputation Management Blog http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/comment-page-1/#comment-85829 A Look at Upcoming Search Industry Conferences | SEO Backlinking - SEO and Online Reputation Management Blog Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:30:31 +0000 http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/#comment-85829 [...] I mention Mike co-organizes the mesh conference? Thanks go out to everyone who attended the first Greater Toronto SEM Social in [...] [...] I mention Mike co-organizes the mesh conference? Thanks go out to everyone who attended the first Greater Toronto SEM Social in [...]

]]> By: A Look at Upcoming Search Industry Conferences | SEO Ranking, Marketing and Tactic http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/comment-page-1/#comment-85822 A Look at Upcoming Search Industry Conferences | SEO Ranking, Marketing and Tactic Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:50:33 +0000 http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/#comment-85822 [...] I mention Mike co-organizes the mesh conference? Thanks go out to everyone who attended the first Greater Toronto SEM Social in [...] [...] I mention Mike co-organizes the mesh conference? Thanks go out to everyone who attended the first Greater Toronto SEM Social in [...]

]]> By: Rhonda Burke http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/comment-page-1/#comment-74469 Rhonda Burke Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:38:44 +0000 http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/#comment-74469 Is it time to have a discussion about customer centricity and the web?....who has succeeded in putting the customer at the center of their business model? how have they done it? what is their retention like? what are they doing that sets them apart from their competition? who is the "customer" when the user and revenue source are not the same entity? Jim Buckmaster touched on this subject last year but I think the time has come for a more focussed conversation. Is it time to have a discussion about customer centricity and the web?….who has succeeded in putting the customer at the center of their business model? how have they done it? what is their retention like? what are they doing that sets them apart from their competition? who is the “customer” when the user and revenue source are not the same entity? Jim Buckmaster touched on this subject last year but I think the time has come for a more focussed conversation.

]]> By: Rob http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/comment-page-1/#comment-73619 Rob Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:30:04 +0000 http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/#comment-73619 We definitely need to focus more on this issue, George - no question. I expect we'll touch base with you again as we're developing the idea. We definitely need to focus more on this issue, George – no question. I expect we’ll touch base with you again as we’re developing the idea.

]]> By: George Tsiolis http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/comment-page-1/#comment-73463 George Tsiolis Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:17:47 +0000 http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/#comment-73463 Rob, you know where I stand on agenda recommendations. We need to start talking about monetization. Who is actually making money from the web and how are they doing it? If people want to discuss measurement, than revenue and profit have to be a vital component. The issue was just starting to bubble at Mesh '06 when people were standing up and asking how to generate more than enough cash for a "cup of coffee per day". It must be boiling over today. The problem is that we have focused too much on "cool" and not enough on "real". If we don't address this issue, people from other countries will and they'll be the winners of tomorrow, while we stare at our Google Ads. The good news is that if we can get some of our brightest minds to focus on utility, we can disrupt industries, defeat international (US) competitors and create a new generation of wealth. AGORACOM and Freshbooks are examples of what is possible. I don't know why we've shied away from the topic but its time has come...I hope. Regards, George Rob, you know where I stand on agenda recommendations. We need to start talking about monetization. Who is actually making money from the web and how are they doing it?

If people want to discuss measurement, than revenue and profit have to be a vital component. The issue was just starting to bubble at Mesh ‘06 when people were standing up and asking how to generate more than enough cash for a “cup of coffee per day”. It must be boiling over today.

The problem is that we have focused too much on “cool” and not enough on “real”. If we don’t address this issue, people from other countries will and they’ll be the winners of tomorrow, while we stare at our Google Ads.

The good news is that if we can get some of our brightest minds to focus on utility, we can disrupt industries, defeat international (US) competitors and create a new generation of wealth. AGORACOM and Freshbooks are examples of what is possible.

I don’t know why we’ve shied away from the topic but its time has come…I hope.

Regards,
George

]]> By: Tamera Kremer http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/comment-page-1/#comment-72405 Tamera Kremer Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:51:19 +0000 http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/#comment-72405 I think measurement is important, but I feel that we should also be looking strategic vs. tactical (measurement is tactical and subjective -- even the web analytics firms are measuring different things via the web and each campaign online starts in the strategy session to determine what metrics are important for the individual campaign). I'd like to see less celebrity (i.e. I don't think spending $10k + for Godin to speak is worthwhile for a conference like mesh) and more strategic thinkers who may not be as well known, but are still valuable. I'd also like to get a few more tech folks involved -- especially those who were involved in building the social tools we're using and talking about. They had an idea... where did it come from? Why did they determine that Twitter (for eg.) was missing from the marketplace. Finally, I'd like to discuss the semantic web (the real definition of Web 3.0) and universal search, both which will have a huge impact on social media 2.0. And I echo the request for different tracks based on knowledge level. SES does this really well. I think measurement is important, but I feel that we should also be looking strategic vs. tactical (measurement is tactical and subjective — even the web analytics firms are measuring different things via the web and each campaign online starts in the strategy session to determine what metrics are important for the individual campaign).

I’d like to see less celebrity (i.e. I don’t think spending $10k + for Godin to speak is worthwhile for a conference like mesh) and more strategic thinkers who may not be as well known, but are still valuable.

I’d also like to get a few more tech folks involved — especially those who were involved in building the social tools we’re using and talking about. They had an idea… where did it come from? Why did they determine that Twitter (for eg.) was missing from the marketplace.

Finally, I’d like to discuss the semantic web (the real definition of Web 3.0) and universal search, both which will have a huge impact on social media 2.0.

And I echo the request for different tracks based on knowledge level. SES does this really well.

]]> By: Douglas Walker http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/comment-page-1/#comment-71052 Douglas Walker Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:54:17 +0000 http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/#comment-71052 Would love to see Doc Searles on Cluetrain 8 years later, or the Vendor Relationship Management project (vrmproject.org) at Harvard or other Attention-based discussions (highly relevant to the above Measurement conversation as well). Jason Calacanis would be interesting on business models, Web 2.0 startups and entrepreneurship in this space. Chris Anderson on the economy of Free. Would really like to see some more advanced, theoretical and forward-looking social media panels and discussions positioned at same time as the 101s. Would prefer streams organized by level of knowledge required versus topic or traditional job role (at least in this area, to Joe's point, there is less and less distinction between PR and Advertising topics). Would love to see Doc Searles on Cluetrain 8 years later, or the Vendor Relationship Management project (vrmproject.org) at Harvard or other Attention-based discussions (highly relevant to the above Measurement conversation as well).

Jason Calacanis would be interesting on business models, Web 2.0 startups and entrepreneurship in this space.

Chris Anderson on the economy of Free.

Would really like to see some more advanced, theoretical and forward-looking social media panels and discussions positioned at same time as the 101s. Would prefer streams organized by level of knowledge required versus topic or traditional job role (at least in this area, to Joe’s point, there is less and less distinction between PR and Advertising topics).

]]> By: Eden Spodek http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/comment-page-1/#comment-70129 Eden Spodek Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:58:45 +0000 http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/#comment-70129 I would like to see: • Social media measurement • What's next? • Some separate sessions for mesh/web 2.0/soc. med vets vs. new people • Repeat time slots for some of the more popular break-out sessions, archives are fine but they aren't the same as live presentations. • In no specific order: Jeremiah Owyang, Tara Hunt (to help shake things up again), C.C. Chapman, Kate Trgovac, Britney Mason (panel on 3D-Web/virtual worlds) Susan Reynolds (Frozen Pea Campaign), Shel Holtz and Neville Hobson from the FIR podcast (together on one stage), Seth Godin, and the list goes on... I would like to see:
• Social media measurement
• What’s next?
• Some separate sessions for mesh/web 2.0/soc. med vets vs. new people
• Repeat time slots for some of the more popular break-out sessions, archives are fine but they aren’t the same as live presentations.
• In no specific order: Jeremiah Owyang, Tara Hunt (to help shake things up again), C.C. Chapman, Kate Trgovac, Britney Mason (panel on 3D-Web/virtual worlds) Susan Reynolds (Frozen Pea Campaign), Shel Holtz and Neville Hobson from the FIR podcast (together on one stage), Seth Godin, and the list goes on…

]]> By: Phil Barrett http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/comment-page-1/#comment-69231 Phil Barrett Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:50:03 +0000 http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/#comment-69231 Social media is migrating to mobile - it would be great to hear what is working & evolving in this space....like the Nokia MOSH network. I was at 3GSm last year and mobile social media was a big movement in other parts of the world not named North America :) Social media is migrating to mobile – it would be great to hear what is working & evolving in this space….like the Nokia MOSH network.

I was at 3GSm last year and mobile social media was a big movement in other parts of the world not named North America :)

]]> By: Robin Yap http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/comment-page-1/#comment-62384 Robin Yap Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:52:23 +0000 http://www.meshconference.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-mesh08-suggestion-box/#comment-62384 I'm all for the "why", as per Maggie's point above. It would be good to have participatory workshops (ala the unconference portion at Northern Voice) and discuss the meta-frameworks behind all the topics that surround Mesh topics and/or social media/web 2.0/mashups/... in general. I’m all for the “why”, as per Maggie’s point above. It would be good to have participatory workshops (ala the unconference portion at Northern Voice) and discuss the meta-frameworks behind all the topics that surround Mesh topics and/or social media/web 2.0/mashups/… in general.

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